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	<title>Comments on: The future of newspapers: Are you on a sinking ship?</title>
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		<title>By: Wenalway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wenalway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ad problem has been around for a while, though. If people are just now grasping that, then that&#039;s a whole other problem.

Just go back to some papers from the late 1980s and early 1990s. You&#039;ll see types of ads that you don&#039;t see today. Those aren&#039;t coming back.

And I&#039;m glad to be here to call a clone stupid, although I think the true words were &quot;easily detectable.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ad problem has been around for a while, though. If people are just now grasping that, then that&#8217;s a whole other problem.</p>
<p>Just go back to some papers from the late 1980s and early 1990s. You&#8217;ll see types of ads that you don&#8217;t see today. Those aren&#8217;t coming back.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad to be here to call a clone stupid, although I think the true words were &#8220;easily detectable.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Mace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Mace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reporter at The Times, Joe Carlson, made it a point to tell me the ever changing new media landscape isn&#039;t the only obstacle newspapers have to face, it&#039;s also the economy. Fuel prices have, and Wenalway, please make sure to check my usage here, affected our industry as well. From the cost of transportation of paper and ink to the carriers who deliver our newspapers. Advertisers are pulling back, especially real estate and car dealerships. Even if we find a business model that takes into account online, print, television, radio, etc., we still have to deal with the ever fluctuating economy, the same as everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reporter at The Times, Joe Carlson, made it a point to tell me the ever changing new media landscape isn&#8217;t the only obstacle newspapers have to face, it&#8217;s also the economy. Fuel prices have, and Wenalway, please make sure to check my usage here, affected our industry as well. From the cost of transportation of paper and ink to the carriers who deliver our newspapers. Advertisers are pulling back, especially real estate and car dealerships. Even if we find a business model that takes into account online, print, television, radio, etc., we still have to deal with the ever fluctuating economy, the same as everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Wenalway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wenalway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what are we going to do about the future? Because that we can change, but itâ€™s going to take all of us working together to find solutions.&quot;

Your first solution: Either ditch the false, easily detectable clone posts, or find a way to make them smarter.

&quot;spent more time being clever with the actual copy they are slotted&quot; -- um, huh? There&#039;s a true design dolt phrase. Just how should they &quot;be more clever&quot;? Change random quotes? Alter a few details? This suggestion sounds very much like someone who never reads past the first graf. And that sounds like a designer; their true longing is to spend less time on content. They don&#039;t understand it, and they fear it.

Also, if we&#039;re referring to outsourcing, I think design work is headed overseas, too.

Let me know when the clones grow some brain cells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what are we going to do about the future? Because that we can change, but itâ€™s going to take all of us working together to find solutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your first solution: Either ditch the false, easily detectable clone posts, or find a way to make them smarter.</p>
<p>&#8220;spent more time being clever with the actual copy they are slotted&#8221; &#8212; um, huh? There&#8217;s a true design dolt phrase. Just how should they &#8220;be more clever&#8221;? Change random quotes? Alter a few details? This suggestion sounds very much like someone who never reads past the first graf. And that sounds like a designer; their true longing is to spend less time on content. They don&#8217;t understand it, and they fear it.</p>
<p>Also, if we&#8217;re referring to outsourcing, I think design work is headed overseas, too.</p>
<p>Let me know when the clones grow some brain cells.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is time to turn it around, but the reality is probably somewhere in between. We need to continue to press ahead with solid journalism (as Student Journalist says), but we also need to figure out how to market our commodity outside of print. There&#039;s no magic wand (nor hole in Kansas) that will make this happen. 

We need to embrace new technologies and new ways of talking with the community. And we need to be the premier source for local news, regardless of the medium.

Right now, the biggest problem isn&#039;t having readership. Most readerships are UP compared to 10 years ago (when you count web + print). The problem is how to capitalize on that. I have faith in our friends in advertising that they&#039;ll figure it out, though I realize there are many obstacles. 

One bright side to suffering is that we&#039;ll likely innovate like we never have before. I&#039;ve seen some REALLY dramatic changes in the past 8 years, but especially in the past two. That&#039;s a good sign.

Will we end up with the same staff numbers we had in 1998? Probably not. But we can be a robust industry again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is time to turn it around, but the reality is probably somewhere in between. We need to continue to press ahead with solid journalism (as Student Journalist says), but we also need to figure out how to market our commodity outside of print. There&#8217;s no magic wand (nor hole in Kansas) that will make this happen. </p>
<p>We need to embrace new technologies and new ways of talking with the community. And we need to be the premier source for local news, regardless of the medium.</p>
<p>Right now, the biggest problem isn&#8217;t having readership. Most readerships are UP compared to 10 years ago (when you count web + print). The problem is how to capitalize on that. I have faith in our friends in advertising that they&#8217;ll figure it out, though I realize there are many obstacles. </p>
<p>One bright side to suffering is that we&#8217;ll likely innovate like we never have before. I&#8217;ve seen some REALLY dramatic changes in the past 8 years, but especially in the past two. That&#8217;s a good sign.</p>
<p>Will we end up with the same staff numbers we had in 1998? Probably not. But we can be a robust industry again.</p>
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		<title>By: Student journalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Student journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAKE UP! I haven&#039;t really boarded the ship yet, but I&#039;m watching it go under from the dock and the reason is more evident and tangible than the solution.

You&#039;re all scared.

Scared of the NEW generation! Oh my God... Internet? What DO we DO? Calm down. Don&#039;t get your undies in a bind. It&#039;s quite simple: Editors and publishers need to stop some horrible trends going around. Here&#039;s a list of a few.

1. STOP putting an emphasis on what the younger demographics want to read for news, and START giving them news. Put your popculture, pseudo-entertainment tabloid bull where it belongs, on the arts and entertainment sections. We have good news judgment and if globalization has done anything, it&#039;s made us care about the world. 

2. DON&#039;T STOP putting credibility as number one on your list of things to do today. 

3. STOP trying to be that old guy that says &quot;cool&quot; and &quot;yo.&quot; You know what I mean *ehem Tribune*.

4. And for GOD&#039;S SAKE don&#039;t sacrifice good reporters, editors and the people in your newsroom that aren&#039;t afraid to say NO, for bottom line. If you don&#039;t think your readership suffers on account of that, hang up your press badge and get a new lifestyle. 

On behalf of future, idealistic, morally strong journalists PLEASE, keep the ship afloat. It&#039;s one of those things that should NEVER disappear. 

It&#039;s what d[ream]ocracies are made of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAKE UP! I haven&#8217;t really boarded the ship yet, but I&#8217;m watching it go under from the dock and the reason is more evident and tangible than the solution.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re all scared.</p>
<p>Scared of the NEW generation! Oh my God&#8230; Internet? What DO we DO? Calm down. Don&#8217;t get your undies in a bind. It&#8217;s quite simple: Editors and publishers need to stop some horrible trends going around. Here&#8217;s a list of a few.</p>
<p>1. STOP putting an emphasis on what the younger demographics want to read for news, and START giving them news. Put your popculture, pseudo-entertainment tabloid bull where it belongs, on the arts and entertainment sections. We have good news judgment and if globalization has done anything, it&#8217;s made us care about the world. </p>
<p>2. DON&#8217;T STOP putting credibility as number one on your list of things to do today. </p>
<p>3. STOP trying to be that old guy that says &#8220;cool&#8221; and &#8220;yo.&#8221; You know what I mean *ehem Tribune*.</p>
<p>4. And for GOD&#8217;S SAKE don&#8217;t sacrifice good reporters, editors and the people in your newsroom that aren&#8217;t afraid to say NO, for bottom line. If you don&#8217;t think your readership suffers on account of that, hang up your press badge and get a new lifestyle. </p>
<p>On behalf of future, idealistic, morally strong journalists PLEASE, keep the ship afloat. It&#8217;s one of those things that should NEVER disappear. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s what d[ream]ocracies are made of.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dodge Medlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dodge Medlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A while back, some scientists did a study and figured out somehow that Kansas is actually flatter than a pancake.

I&#039;m just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back, some scientists did a study and figured out somehow that Kansas is actually flatter than a pancake.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because Kansas is a far-off and exotic land! Unless I&#039;m remembering it incorrectly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because Kansas is a far-off and exotic land! Unless I&#8217;m remembering it incorrectly?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Koland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Koland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m curious about is why are we dumping the designers in Kansas? :) Did I do something wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m curious about is why are we dumping the designers in Kansas? :) Did I do something wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s assume for five seconds that design and designers &quot;ruined newspapers.&quot; We&#039;ve rounded up all of the newspaper designers -- and a few from other media just for good measure -- and dumped them in a hole in the middle of Kansas so deep and dark that they&#039;ll never be able to draw a map to get out. Would the number of readers skyrocket? Would advertisers beat down the door of the local paper(s) to hand over bags of cash? Would layoffs stop?

No, no and, sadly, no. 

So instead of blaming designers or the Internet or evil trolls for the past, which we can&#039;t change, what are we going to do about the future? Because that we &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; change, but it&#039;s going to take all of us working together to find solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume for five seconds that design and designers &#8220;ruined newspapers.&#8221; We&#8217;ve rounded up all of the newspaper designers &#8212; and a few from other media just for good measure &#8212; and dumped them in a hole in the middle of Kansas so deep and dark that they&#8217;ll never be able to draw a map to get out. Would the number of readers skyrocket? Would advertisers beat down the door of the local paper(s) to hand over bags of cash? Would layoffs stop?</p>
<p>No, no and, sadly, no. </p>
<p>So instead of blaming designers or the Internet or evil trolls for the past, which we can&#8217;t change, what are we going to do about the future? Because that we <b>can</b> change, but it&#8217;s going to take all of us working together to find solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Wenalway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wenalway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If copy editors spent less time whining about page designers and spent more time being clever with the actual copy they are slotted . . . well maybe the fairly generic work and common skills wouldn&#039;t be so easily outsourced to India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If copy editors spent less time whining about page designers and spent more time being clever with the actual copy they are slotted . . . well maybe the fairly generic work and common skills wouldn&#8217;t be so easily outsourced to India.</p>
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